Saturday, 29 April 2017

5Dimes' WWE Payback 2017 Odds (Saturday Night Update)

Here are all the prices moves that I have tracked from 5Dimes since the markets were opened yesterday.

The times are all in BST and show how the current favourites have declined throughout the day.

Date / Time
Enzo and Big Cass
Gallows and Anderson
28/4 5PM
-165
+125
10:30PM
-150
+110
29/4 6:30AM
"
"
10AM
"
"
2:35PM
-170
+130
3PM
-195
+155
4PM
-280
+200
6:45PM
-2,000
+1,000
10PM
-7,500
+2,500

Enzo Amore and Big Cass' price has continued its descent after the most recent post where I noticed the team had moved from -280 to -2,000.

Date / Time
Bayley
Alexa Bliss
28/4 5PM
+100
-140
10:30PM
+115
-155
29/4 6:30AM
"
"
10AM
"
"
2:35PM
+100
-140
3PM
-130
-110
4PM
-170
+130
6:45PM
-4,500
+1,500
10PM
"
"

There hasn't been any change in this market after Bayley's price plummeted to -4,500 earlier this evening.

Date / Time
Seth Rollins
Samoa Joe
28/4 5PM
+100
-140
10:30PM
-130
-110
29/4 6:30AM
-160
+120
10AM
"
"
2:35PM
-195
+155
3PM
-260
+180
4PM
-390
+270
6:45PM
-2,300
+1,100
10PM
-7,500
+2,500

The 'Seth Rollins' selection has nosedived through the day.

Date / Time
Roman Reigns
Braun Strowman
28/4 5PM
+175
-245
10:30PM
+260
-380
29/4 6:30AM
"
"
10AM
"
"
2:35PM
+305
-425
3PM
+370
-560
4PM
+550
-1,050
6:45PM
+1,200
-2,600
10PM
"
"

Braun Strowman's odds have stayed at -2,600 since the early evening.

Date / Time
Neville
Austin Aries
28/4 5PM
-150
+110
10:30PM
+120
-160
29/4 6:30AM
"
"
10AM
"
"
2:35PM
+100
-140
3PM
-130
-110
4PM
-175
+135
6:45PM
-1,200
+600
10PM
-3,000
+1,300

Neville's role as a favourite has strengthened from -1,200 to -3,000 since I last checked in with the sportsbook.

Date / Time
Randy Orton
Bray Wyatt
28/4 5PM
-130
-110
10:30PM
+135
-175
29/4 6:30AM
+155
-195
10AM
"
"
2:35PM
+175
-245
3PM
+210
-290
4PM
+310
-430
6:45PM
+950
-1,950
10PM
+1,800
-5,400

Bray Wyatt's price has declined rapidly since the moves at around 2:35pm BST.

Date / Time
Hardys
Cesaro and Sheamus
28/4 5PM
-350
+250
10:30PM
-400
+280
29/4 6:30AM
"
"
10AM
"
"
2:35PM
-425
+305
3PM
-565
+370
4PM
-1,050
+550
6:45PM
-2,000
+1,000
10PM
-5,400
+1,800

The Hardys have also been in freefall since the 2:35pm price moves.

Date / Time
Kevin Owens
Chris Jericho
28/4 5PM
-650
+420
10:30PM
-400
+280
29/4 6:30AM
"
"
10AM
"
"
2:35PM
-350
+250
3PM
-280
+200
4PM
-195
+155
6:45PM
+260
-380
10PM
+600
-1,200

Chris Jericho, who moved into favouritism just before 6:45pm, has continued to drop since then.

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The WWE Payback 2017 Time Props Post

It's more than a day late, but I've finally been able to have a proper look through the WWE Payback 2017 prop bet markets that have been available from the sports betting websites that publish odds from Kambi since yesterday.

The rules are the same as usual, but - for those who don't know - there are over/under markets for most of the matches on tomorrow night's card where clients can bet on how long they believe the bout lasts. The timer starts from the bell to activate the match right up to the ring once a decision has been made.

I wrote down all the odds yesterday and have just had a look through them again. There have been some changes made that I will point out when I get to them.

The Kick-Off Match
The Enzo Amore and Big Cass versus Gallows and Anderson market originally had these two options: '13 minutes or more' at 9/10 or '12:59 or less' at 4/5. When I looked at the market in the early hours of this morning, the less had been backed into 18/25. Since then, the traders have changed the options to '11 Minutes or More', which is 9/10 and '10:59 or less' at 4/5.

What I Would Do: 
I'm not betting on it. I missed the boat because I would have taken the under. I still like the match to go under, but I have now lost two minutes. My fault for not going through these earlier!

Roman Reigns .vs. Braun Strowman
This market has been set at '22 minutes or more' at 9/10 or '21:59 or less' at 4/5. The odds and the lines have stayed as they were.

What I Would Do: 
I am leaning mildly on the under. The last time these two wrestled on a PPV was at FastLane in February. The match lasted 17 minutes and 20 seconds. Bear in mind that this was a pay-per-view where the main event of Kevin Owens versus Bill Goldberg was booked to go short. Therefore, the rest of the card required longer matches. It's a mild lean in case the match ends up being the main event.

Seth Rollins .vs. Samoa Joe
This is another market where the lines have changed. It opened with '22:00 or more' at EVS and the '21:59 or less' at 18/25. By the early hours of this morning, the punters had evidently backed the under option as it had been moved to 3/5. Now - however - the options have been changed to '20 minutes or more' at 17/20 and '19:59 or less' also at 17/20.

What I Would Do:
I could see this going either way. It's a toss up.

Neville .vs. Austin Aries
The line has been set at around 16 with '16 or more' at 9/10 and the '15:59 or less' at 4/5. Everything is the same as yesterday.

What I Would Do:
The two wrestlers were given a little under sixteen minutes on the pre-show of WrestleMania. They're now working the main card. I think it's going to be tight, but they might hit the sixteen this time. The reason why I'm siding on the over is because - based on the odds - it looks like Aries is going to lose once again. I think they'll have to tell a story and give Aries some time to look good before losing. This will need some time in the match.

Hardys .vs Cesaro and Sheamus
The line has not changed since yesterday. Neither have the odds. It's '14:00 or more' at 19/20 or '13:59 or less' at 3/4.

What I Would Do:
I have no reasoning other than to state that the 'Less' appeals to my eyes more than the 'Over'.

Kevin Owens .vs. Chris Jericho
The market opened with these options: '20:00 or more' at 17/20 or '19:59 or less' at 17/20. As of the time of writing, the odds for twenty plus is 11/10 and the 19:59 or lower is 13/20. Therefore, the customers appear to have been backing the under option.

What I Would Do:
I'm not betting on this, but I'd go with the flow and look at the under. They were given sixteen minutes to do their thing at WrestleMania. Twenty minutes seems a few minutes too much.

Alexa Bliss .vs. Bayley
I left this one last even though I no longer have any intention to bet on it. The market opened with '20:00 or more' at EVENS and '19:59 or less' at 18/25. However, by the early hours of this morning the lines had moved to '18:00 or more' (17/20) and '17:59 or less' (17/20). As of the time of writing, it appears as though the customers have continued to take the under as it has been cut to 11/20 while the eighteen and over is 13/10.

What I Would Do:
I missed the boat on this one. I would have taken the '19:59 or less' immediately. Even though there are two minutes missing, I believe there's a strong chance this still goes under, but I'm not going to bet knowing I could have had a better line earlier. Once again, it's my fault!

For those keeping score. I've gone with the following:

1) Roman Reigns .vs. Braun Strowman to go 21:59 or under
2) Neville .vs. Austin Aries to be 16:00 or over
3) Hardys .vs. Cesaro and Sheamus 13:59 or less

The markets can be found across all the sportsbooks that offer Kambi pricing. A few examples can be found below:



5Dimes Cut Payback Selections

The 5Dimes Sportsbook has cut the prices for all of the Payback 2017 selections that began to move in this afternoon.

Most of these names have been cut extremely short.

I'll list the current favourites below and note how their prices have changed between 4pm and shortly before I began to write this post.

Enzo Amore and Big Cass
The team have moved from -280 into -2,000 for their match against Anderson and Gallows on the Kick Off. As a result of the move, the heels have moved out to +1,000 from +200.

Bayley
Bayley is now a -4,500 favourite to successfully retain the WWE Women's Championship against Alexa Bliss. The most recent price I have for her is -170, but she was one of the selections that fell from outsider to favourite this afternoon. Alexa is +1,500. She was +130 over two hours ago.

Seth Rollins
Seth Rollins has moved from -390 into -2,300. His opponent, Samoa Joe, has increased from +270 to +1,100.

Braun Strowman
Braun Stowman is now a -2,600 to get a result against Roman Reigns. The Big Dog has moved out to +1,200 from +550.

Neville
The WWE Cruiserweight Champion, Neville, has gone from a -175 favourite into a much shorter -1,200. Austin Aries has drifted out to +600 from +135.

Bray Wyatt
Bray Wyatt's odds to win the House of Horrors match has been cut from -430 to -1,950  Randy Orton has moved from +310 to +950.

Hardys
The Hardys have moved from -1,050 into -2,000. Cesaro and Sheamus have increased from +550 to +1,000.

Chris Jericho
Chris Jericho - whose odds were falling through the day - has now become the favourite to win against Kevin Owens in the US Championship match. He's -380. The most recent number I had was +155. This obviously means Owens has gone from favourite to underdog. He's +260 now, but had been -195.

The prices were correct as of around 6:45pm BST this evening. Up to date odds can be found under 'Other Sports' on the 5Dimes Website.

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Canadian Bettors Being Offered Good Odds For Payback

The Canadian sportsbook - Sports Interaction - is another company with odds available for tomorrow night's WWE Payback 2017 PPV.

They are currently showing some valuable prices.

For example, Chris Jericho, whose odds have been falling today, is a +280 outsider.

That's not all. Bayley is +110 and Neville is +120. Both selections are favoured with the firms based overseas.

All the prices can be viewed on Sports Interaction's WWE Betting Page.

5Dimes' Payback 2017 Odds As Of 4pm Saturday

Here are the 5Dimes Sportsbook's WWE Payback 2017 odds as of 4pm BST this afternoon.

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In the most recent post, that was published after 3pm, I pointed out the selections that were being backed. The bets are seemingly continuing to come in on them as they've been shortened some more within the hour.

Chris Jericho's odds to win the WWE US Championship match have been lowered from +200 to +155 since I last checked. 

The Hardys have moved in from -565 into -1,050. 

Bray Wyatt's price has descended to -430 from -290.

Neville has been backed from -130 to -175 in the WWE Cruiserweight Championship market.

Braun Strowman is another favourite that has moved into the thousands. He was -560 previously, but is now into -1,050.

Seth Rollins has been cut from -260 into -390.

Bayley is now -170 to successfully retain the WWE Raw Women's Championship. She had moved from +100 to -130 when the moves came in.

Enzo Amore and Big Cass have moved in from -195 to -280 to win the Kick Off match.

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Payback 2017 Odds Dropping

There has been some activity in the 5Dimes Sportsbook's WWE Payback 2017 markets within hour.

I'll go through the movers below.
  • Enzo Amore and Big Cass have moved in. They're now -175 favourites. They were -150 at the start of the day.
  • Bayley is now a favourite to win her match against Alexa Bliss. She has moved from +100 to -130 in the last twenty-five minutes. She was +115 this morning.
  • Seth Rollins' price has been on the descent. It was -160 at 6:30am BST, was -195 at 2:35pm and now at -260
  • Braun Strowman's odds have been cut from -380 into -560. 
  • Neville is back to being the favourite to successfully retain the WWE Cruiserweight Championship against Austin Aries. He was +120 this morning, had moved down to +100 by 2:35pm and is now -130
  • Bray Wyatt's price to win the House of Horrors match has moved in from -195 to -290
  • The Hardy Boys have been backed from -400 into -565
  • Chris Jericho's odds to get the decision in the US Championship match have fallen to +200. He started off the day out at +280
The odds were correct as of 3pm BST and from the 5Dimes Website.

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Kambi's Payback 2017 Odds For Saturday Afternoon

It has been nearly a day since the oddsmakers from Kambi put up their markets for tomorrow night's WWE Payback 2017 pay-per-view so I thought I'd check back in with them to see how the current odds contrast with the early ones.

Pre-Show
The Kick-Off market  is still showing the same pricing as yesterday. Enzo Amore and Big Cass are 1/2 favourites while Gallows and Anderson are 7/5.

House of Horrors Match
Bray Wyatt's odds have shortened to 23/50 after originally being 18/25. Randy Orton has jumped from EVENS to 6/4.

Braun Strowman .vs. Roman Reigns
The punters have backed Strowman to get the decision over Roman Reigns. His price has been lowered from 2/5 into 1/4. Reigns - on the other hand - has moved to 5/2 from 7/4.

Samoa Joe .vs. Seth Rollins
Just like elsewhere, Friday night punters backed Rollins to win this match. He opened at 9/10, but is now down to 1/2. Samoa Joe has drifted from 4/5 to 7/5.

Neville .vs. Austin Aries
This is another market where yesterday's favourite is now an underdog as Neville - who opened 18/25 - is now 6/5. Austin Aries has been cut from EVS to 3/5.

Hardys .vs. Cesaro and Sheamus
The customers have backed the Hardys to retain with a decision over their challengers. The odds have dropped from 2/5 to 3/10 with Cesaro and Sheamus moving out from 7/4 to 11/5.

Alexa Bliss .vs. Bayley
Bayley was originally 6/5, but is now 17/20. Alexa Bliss has moved out from 3/5 to 17/20.

Kevin Owens .vs. Chris Jericho
Kevin Owens has gone from a very short favourite to.. well, a favourite. He moved from 1/10 to 1/3. This is because Chris Jericho's price has been cut from 19/4 to 2/1.

As noted yesterday, the sportsbooks have also published a handful of prop markets for most of the matches on the card. I was unable to write about them last night, but will hopefully get to them sometime today.

The match and prop odds can be found on the sportsbooks that publish odds from the Kambi Group. A few examples can be found below:



Looking For Your WWE Payback 2017 Prop/In-Play Specials Ideas

First published on April 24th.

The oddsmakers from William Hill are once again looking for your ideas for in-play specials.

This time, they'd like any suggestions you have for this weekend's Payback 2017 pay-per-view.

What you can do is leave any ideas you have for a bet you'd like to see on Sunday in the comments section below. A member of staff will look through the comments and - if possible - your suggestion could make it to the William Hill website on Sunday night.

Please bear in mind that the in-play specials are settled on what occurs during the main part of the event, so the company cannot price up anything that could take place on the pre-show. Other examples of things that cannot be priced up are:

- Male-on-women violence
- Wrestlers bleeding or real injuries occurring during the event
- The placement of matches on the card (ie asking for certain matches to be the main event etc)
- Things that are said by audience members/wrestlers/commentators
- Pyrotechnic or other production malfunctions

Here are a few examples from WrestleMania that were suggested in the comments section and priced up:

- Nia Jax to be the first person eliminated from the Raw Women's Championship match (EVS)
- John Cena to propse to Nikki Bella during the show (4/7)
- The Rock to give Elias Samson a Rock Bottom (10/1)
- Samoa Joe to interfere in the Seth Rollins .vs. HHH match (1/4)
- Renee Young to enter the Smackdown Women's Championship match (10/1)
- Hardy Boyz to leave as WWE Raw Tag Team Champions (6/4)

You can read more in this post

When available, the markets can be found along with regular WWE Payback 2017 match markets on William Hill's WWE Betting Page.

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Paddy Power Payback 2017 Odds Notes For Saturday Morning

Here are a few things that I've noticed while looking through Paddy Power's Payback 2017 markets a short time ago.
  • Gallows and Anderson have moved in from 6/4 to 6/5 while Enzo Amore and Big Cass have drifted mildly from 1/2 to 4/7
  • Going from 11pm BST last night to 11am BST today, Kevin Owens' odds have came in from 1/2 to 2/5 while Chris Jericho's number has moved up a step from 6/4 to 7/4.  In a post published yesterday, I noted that Jericho's price had dropped from 4/1 to the aforementioned 6/4 and that was peculiar based on the knowledge that Jericho is set to depart WWE soon. I guess he could win via count-out or DQ. It's one to watch.
  • Bayley's price has moved in from 5/4 to 5/6. Alexa Bliss is also at 5/6, so we have a pick 'em. Bliss drifted out from 4/7. 
  • There has been a complete flip in the Cruiserweight Championship market. Neville, who opened as a 4/6 favourite to successfully retain the title, is now 11/10. Austin Aries who opened at 11/10 is - yes, you guessed right - 4/6.
  • Bray Wyatt's price to win the House of Horrors match has continued to fall. It's now 4/7 from 8/13. Randy Orton has moved from 6/5 to 5/4.
  • Samoa Joe is another selection whose price has fallen between yesterday night and this morning as it has been lowered from 7/4 into 5/4. One of the last things I pointed out last night was the fact that Seth Rollins' price had moved from 5/6 to 2/5 between the afternoon and evening, so there have been punters taking both selections. The current lean - however - is going the way of Joe.  
The odds were correct as of 11am BST. You can view the up to date prices below:


Sky Bet's WWE Payback 2017 Odds

Here are Sky Bet's WWE Payback 2017 betting odds.


The markets were published today. They can be found on Sky Bet's Wrestling Betting Page.

William Hill's WWE Payback 2017 Odds For Saurday Morning

The oddsmakers at William Hill republished their WWE Payback 2017 betting markets earlier this morning, so - in this post - I'll show you the current odds and contrast them to what they were when they were first published yesterday.


The pre-show market started off with Enzo and Big Cass as 4/7 favourites, so - with them now at 4/6 - it's the team of Gallows and Anderson that has shortened. They're now 11/10, but had been 5/4.

Chris Jericho started out as a 3/1 underdog in the United States Championship market. He has seen some action overseas and this has evidently moved across to these shores as he is now down to 11/4. Kevin Owens has moved from 2/9 to 1/4 in the same period.

The Hardys have been cut from 2/7 into 1/4 in the WWE Raw Tag Team Championship market. Sheamus and Cesaro have moved up to 11/4 from 5/2.

Bray Wyatt's odds have been lowered from 10/11 to 1/2 to win the House of Horrors match. Randy Orton was originally 4/5 but is now 6/4.

WWE Cruiserweight Champion - Neville - has drifted out from 4/6 to 6/5. His challenger, Austin Aries, has moved from 11/10 to 8/13.

Braun Strowman's odds to get a decision over Roman Reigns have been cut from 2/5 into 1/4. This obviously means you can find Reigns at a better price today (11/4) than you would have had yesterday (7/4).

With Seth Rollins becoming a favourite off-shore, it has had an impact over here as his price has moved in from 11/10 to 4/7. This has resulted in Samoa Joe moving from 4/6 into a 5/4 dog.

Alexa Bliss has dipped from 5/6 to 4/6 to win the WWE Raw Women's Championship match against the current titleholder, Bayley. If you want to back the champ, her price has now moved up from 5/6 to 11/10.

I'll have more William Hill updates across the weekend. The bookmaker will release in-play specials and props a few hours before tomorrow night's event, so - if you have any requests for the staff - you can leave them in the comments section of THIS POST.